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Woke Culture

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by Neophyte, Oct 14, 2022.

  1. blue eyed girl

    blue eyed girl Account Deleted

    Just a thought, but you and Lian have one thing in common - you're both right.

    Sometimes the hardest thing to do is realize that the other guy has a point, no matter what side you're both on.
     
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  2. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    Yep!
     
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  3. gerlinkaro

    gerlinkaro New Member

    You are both Right!
     
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  4. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    First time I was ever accused of being "right".
     
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  5. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    The LGBTQ+ community consider Man and Woman to be social constructs, they are wrong. Man and Woman, like male and female is scientific fact. The definition of man and woman are adult human male and female. Its the same as rooster and hen are adult chicken male and female. There are others too, like stallion and mare, fox and vixen, bull and cow, there are several scientific names for animals denoting male and female for all animals. So Man and Woman is the same for humans. What the LGBTQ+ community is doing is conflating personal sexual preferences with scientific designations. They are trying to change the established definition of words to align with the agenda.
     
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  6. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Hermaphroditism exists more in humans than other animals. We know of something like 60 (might be more) variations of XX and XY where extra X or Y are added.
     
  7. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    True there are outliers like hermaphrodites and others, and having extra chromosomes (which often causes health issues) but they are not part of the norm. Those people you indicated would be considered mutations, humans but not quite human.
     
  8. SisterLover88

    SisterLover88 Trusted.Member

    It's a fair argument but still a strawman because you are not representing the argument correctly.

    The argument is that Male and Female are sexes and are biological. Things like chromosomes, genitals etc.

    Whereas Man and Woman are genders which are social constructs. If you look back in history, even back to cavemen times, society had been split by gender. In hunter gatherer societies, the males would go out and hunt while the females would stay back and gather fruits.

    For all of history, the biological and societal roles have matched. You see tv and movies from the 40s and 50s and they would show the man going off to work while the woman stayed at home.

    The difference now is that those societal norms are not necessarily the norm any more. Women can go off to work and earn more than their husband. Gay and Lesbian couples can have both working.

    The society we live in has changed which means people can be different societal roles.
     
  9. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    No my argument is that Man and Woman are biological designations. Same as Rooster and Hen are biological designations, and Stallion and Mares are biological designations. Each designates the male and female of their particular species, for humans, chickens, and horses. There are similar designations for a myriad of species, they are biological designations not social constructs.
     
  10. SisterLover88

    SisterLover88 Trusted.Member

    Fun fact: words can have more than 1 meaning.

    What you described was the biological definition and used examples of other biological definitions. What "the left" are saying is that there is a societal definition which I explained above.
     
  11. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    For thousands of years Man and Woman meant the Male and Female of the Human species and suddenly the Left decides to give man and woman new definitions and is upset that the majority of people in the World don't agree with the Left's new definition and prefer the old one. The Left is trying to change the definition to support their agenda that the rest of the world don't agree with, and the Left is using force to make the rest of the world agree with the new definition. If you need to use force then what they believe in is wrong.
     
  12. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    Once again, its not the Left, its some people.
    Stop blaming the Left, we know its USA's bogeyman
     
  13. SisterLover88

    SisterLover88 Trusted.Member

    Like I said, society has changed and people are no longer restricted from things based on their genitals. As a result, a new definition was added.

    Words evolve over time. What used to mean one thing in thr past, can mean something different now and a third thing in the future. For instance, pudding used to only refer to sausages (ie black pudding) but it evolved and now means loads of different things.
     
  14. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    So you admit that the Left is trying to change the meaning of words to suit their own agenda, even with the majority of people objecting to it.

    There is a difference between word meaning changing organically versus forced meaning change for an agenda.
     
  15. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

  16. SisterLover88

    SisterLover88 Trusted.Member

    You started a thread called "Woke Culture" to complain about things you didn't like instead of being aware of social injustices. Don't talk to me about changing words to fit agendas
     
  17. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    Is "the Left" the only words you know? Its not the Left
     
  18. bw19481

    bw19481 Trusted.Member

    Thank god DEI is finally being exposed as the joke and money grab that it is. Corporations are dropping it like flies. Universities are waking up to the destruction that is has caused. Took 4 years to long but at least it is starting.
     
  19. MyMommyIsBusty

    MyMommyIsBusty Trusted Member

    Tim Pool. The guy screaming for Civil War, but freaks out when you take his beanie off.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Who's Tim Pool?