Vaccine mandate and abortion

So you are arguing that the ABORTION pill is legal?

 

So lets trust the people who speak to GOD directly right? You realize that if Christianity started now, not 2 Millennia ago? The Prophets would be called "Schizophrenics" not Prophets of God right? Hell. Koresh said he was Jesus returned? Do we KNOW for a fact that he was not? What about the other 1000 or so in MY lifetime who claimed that? And were put in institutions?

The Wheel of Time books, and to a point Babylon 5 (with the Membari) make a great mocking shot.

In the Books? There is a prophecy that the Dragon (think Jesus level person) will be reborn into they cycle over and over when he is needed. People showed up claiming to be the Dragon over time. When the Dragon (Rand) shows up? Everyone doubts because by then the Prophesy was not longer believed. If you are a sword and magic fan read the books, also becoming a Amazon Prime show in Nov.

Same with the Shadows in B5 and Dellen's transformation. Her own people by the time it came no longer believed it when it came.

 

But the originations of "live begins at conception" is saying just that. Someone who "spoke to God" said he said that and it became part of the Dogma. There is nothing written about Jesus condemning Abortion. While on that subject only tacit things written by others 100 years later on his feelings on Homosexuality. Both were COMMON in his day.

I used Korsesh as a "name I knew of".

Record keeping between Greece and Rome was impeccable. My only issue with Rome's Records? They BECAME the Church at the real beginning. So how do we know the records we read are the records from when Rome was Poly-Theistic still. There is a 200 year or so gap from Jesus's death (the Roman records dont show the Miracles, just that someone by that name, in that region, existed and had a following. And they HEARD from someone that he.......) to the adoption or Rome and Christianity to form Roman Catholic. Lets look at some of the miracles from a critical eye. Ever been out on a really hot day and the pavement looked like there was water (heat mirage)? More than possible the people who "saw him walk on water" saw him at a distance walk where there was heat mirage to the observer. In general, remember, the average person then was not a High School Graduate level in the modern world.

Your argument is flawed. You go in assuming all of the "miracles" were real. His story is real.

Except that story existed in part in Horus, Krishna, and others. It is like the Council of Trent took those stories and possibly "created" Gospels. I would be satisfied to see an outside lab produce the writings of any of the Apostles that significantly predate the Council date. But all of that is in the sealed archives and scientists cant test it.

Shroud of Turin? Dated around (British Monarchs for time Reference) Edward Longshanks (the king from BRAVEHEART) and Henry the IV when it was tested. So it was from 1295-1395 AD. Not 33 AD. Many of the books and items likely date to 1000+ years after.

 

Is a jigsaw puzzle, a jigsaw puzzle, when you open the box, or when you put the last piece in its place.

 

A Zygote or Fetus is not a live human if it can not survive extra utero. So until the nose or at least mouth breathing structures form? If it is out it will suffocate. That is why, and this is a good measure, abortion is not murder before a certain point. Because if it was a life from "conception"? Killing a Mother before week 16? (Personal earliest I have ever gotten on when I was on the "state" side) Is VERY HARD to do. The Defense will make sure you dont have all devout Christians. The usual test there is "did it draw a breath on its own after the mother died". I dont remember seeing anything before 14 weeks where it did. Never before 16 where it could be proven beyond a doubt.

But I have not seen one in close to 12 years.

 

This reminds me of when I was a lot younger, and I went into a convenience store. On the counter, above a display, was a sign that said Boneless Chicken. The display was of hard boiled eggs. Was the sign a lie. That isn't a human, that is a fetus.

It seems the argument on Gun Control, the opposite positions are taken. The right argues that's not a gun, that's just a part. Where the Left argues, that part makes a gun, so its a gun. I guest which side of the semantics question you're on, depends on what you are arguing for or against.

 

You realize in most places you need things like MMR, Hep B, Dtap, etc to attend school? That has been law for DECADES now.

To be clear? I dont, per se, support Covid Vax mandates by the government. But to say an employer has to bow to their employee's opinions on it? Then employers cant make any rules that are not against the law. You cant carve out Vaccination but say any other employer rules are perfectly fine. It is one or the other.

 

10 years ago, Kim Basinger, a prominent Lefty was in the news, because she refused to have her children vaccinated. She started a movement of other Lefties to not have their children vaccinated. Now, that not getting a vaccine is against the Left's narrative, you don't hear anything from any of these Leftist Anti-vaxxers. It seems they are more concerned about obeying the Lefts agenda, than their own personal belief's.