Israel Palestine

Geneva only applies to signatories. And rules of war should be abandoned when an enemy disregards them.

Obviously to some degree. It is a principal. American independence war started with British murdering wounded nationalists and burning towns. So militia targeted officers which was "against the rules".

 

There is no gaza anymore. Its all gone pretty much. There will be a new Israel soon if Iran dont attack.
Palestine should have the land as it had not so many years ago unlike the jews had Israel for thousand years ago and now outdated. If people really mean israelites should have right to be there then they have to split up the land. Not taking all of. Hamas attack and when idf retaliate and gain territory they occupy the land because why not? Hamas will always attack so why not take it instead of let them regroup and establish lost and destroyed neighboorhood

 

Both have done bad things. But one has superior qeapons, supplies and allies who are supposed to NOT attack civilians, to enforce human right, yet IDF does NOT respect human rights. They kill, they torture, they rape, they do everything the Nazis once do to them.

 

And with how the IDF acts, they just push more people to join HAMAS. Not all of them went to be terrorists, some join because they lost their families to IDF brutality and want vengeance. IDF created their enemy with their act. Doesnt make HAMAS right, but I understand why so many join them. Treat people like dogs and they'll end up biting

 

Brits themseoves had little maps with Palestine on it so..

 

There are other maps, older maps

 

Question: up until what point do you guys actually believe the majority of these 'Hamas' terrorist attacks where true and not staged during time to justify israeli occupation?

I remember growing up as a kid constantly to this on the tv, how Hamas had carried out a terrorist attack etc - and it always seemed to be a shit-ass ´5 de mayo´style firework rocket that had injured 5 people... apolitically and being so young I always thought. yeah this feels wierd

 

I also remember seeing black and white pictures of jewish refugees, after WWII asking to please be accepted and taken refuge by Palestine...

I'm goiing to be clear, I don't think we here are afraid of judgement. I find it so fucked up and rhetorical, that jews (having been through so much undeserved pain and suffering throughout history, robbed and kicked out from everywhere), having been through the holocaust by Nazi gemran and generally just knowing how that feels on a personal level as a victim - would then go and commit the same atrocities to Palestenian people...

 

Some of it is likely staged as many other things are made up around the world Its hard to believe what is true now. I see many information people are giving and it is a big mess, but one thing is for sure and that is no matter what happened back then the zionist had not the right to expel innocent people from their home amd they knew it, so they made excuses for the consequenses of war. Like wait for the palestinians get enough of us and attack so we can justify our genocide. Israel can afford it though they are big functional country.. Palestine can not, because it has been supressed for many years to sheer concentration camps. Im not saying hamas is right but imagine being a palastine. Your country is taken and made to a luxury sahara/beach heaven for Israel. Your family is dead and you got nothing left than depression, humiliation, violation of freedom and revenge as justice. Would you not feel the same in that situation? Or would you be hard and cold about it only to brush it off as oh yeah that is just life suck it up. The moment the zionist got help to eastablish a state in the holy land, the palestinians knew they would have a eventuel conflict as they both strive for independence in the same land, so over time border will change. Like two tribes ind the same country where one is not welcomed. The zionist in the power of Israel is not real jews. They are corrupt, evil and godless israeles. They dont believe in god or what is best for the people in the country. They have a sick agenda based on religious vision, hereditary hatred through generations of violence, greed and power of control. There was always jews, christians, muslims in the land but it was different people.

 

Palestinians are the victims again, of both the IDF (slaughtering them) and HAMAS (using their pain and sorrow to recruit them)

 

Israel blaming Iran of attacking them.. while it was relatiation for Israeli attack on an EMBASSY of Iran in Syria. Kinda hard to look like the good guys when you bomb embassies xD