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Trump or Ronnie D?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by Hithere55, Jul 19, 2023.

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  1. Hithere55

    Hithere55 Trusted Member

    For folks from Florida, what are your thoughts when it comes to Trump and Ron? I know the vast majority of Florida folks love both. Just wondering what that vote is gonna be if it comes down to one or the other.
     
  2. UpNorthChris

    UpNorthChris Trusted Member

    In the primary I'm supporting DeSantis; he's earned my loyalty. I appreciate everything he's done for our State, and he's given the other 49 the model of how it should be done and what's possible when you do it. There's also the fact that due to the way Trump has been relentlessly vilified by the media over the past seven years, TDS is still a very real and powerful thing that may hurt in the general (it pains me to admit it, but there's still a considerable population across our land who still hate Trump more than they love America, and will continue to let our land burn to the ground rather than allow him to help). That being said, if Trump wins the primary, I will support him in the general; because ultimately it's not about any man (or woman), it's about America - and I don't think we can survive another four years of the current nightmare.
     
  3. John's appleseed

    John's appleseed Trusted Member

    Regardless, I'll support whomever wins the primary, but I think that Ron DeSantis is the better of the two because he knows when to stop talking. My issue with Trump was that he kept talking when he would have been better off not commenting. He basically kept digging himself into several holes. However, I will need to closely examine campaigns before deciding.
     
  4. Dannykinz

    Dannykinz Moderator Staff Member

    Neither absolutely neither
     
  5. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    It amazes me that some Americans still think Trump has their interests at heart. I meam, he is asking them to pay his lawyer bills, even if he is supposely super rich, and was found guilty of sexual assault, he cheated on his ex wife with his current wife, then cheated on his current wife with a pornstar (and Religious people somehow say he is a good Christian???)
     
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  6. Lian

    Lian Friendly One

    The 'current nightmare'? Weird, as Biden did what Trumo said HE would do (lower taxes, for exemple).
    America wouldnt survive a second Trump presidency. The guy is crazy, a pawn to Putin and many other things.
    Can't believe some people still believe in him..
     
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  7. Tttttt

    Tttttt New Member

    A gun to the head
     
  8. UpNorthChris

    UpNorthChris Trusted Member

    Except that he didn't, at least in any meaningful way for most citizens, all he did was create credits for those supporters of his that believe in the whole green energy thing and are willing to invest in things they don't need and that don't work (at least with our current infrastructure). In the meanwhile: our Constitutional rights (such as the right to free speech and the right to keep and bear arms) have been under constant attack, Federal agencies have been weaponized to silence political opponents, our borders are unsecure, inflation and crime are out of control (and democrat policies are continually being introduced to exacerbate these issues rather than correct them - because they keep doubling down on the same mistakes that led to these problems) - so yes, I say current nightmare. However, I'm hoping that the purely political motivation of this most recent indictment is so obvious that it will be the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" and the American people will turn against the left in such a decisive way that those who would continue their attack on our nation are left powerless for years to come.
     
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  9. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    He is going to have a problem soon. He does not listen to lawyers and he is now in front of a judge who is not Cannon. Is not concerned with his campaign, or anything but the case. When she enters the Protective Order? She wont care that he is "Running", needs to talk about things at his Rally, that he thinks that his 1st Amendment Right means he can talk about all the evidence whenever he wants to. She already said it is not her problem that one of his lawyers was too busy to get his temp acceptance into DC yet. The hearing is when it is. She is not holding off for a week or two based on his schedule.

    Speaking of Cannon? She may have made a mistake, whether intentional or not, in her last ruling. She delved into a GJ outside her jurisdiction now acting like it is because she says it is. Just like with the Special Master. I personally dont think she is super biased to Trump. I think she is an inexperienced judge and lawyer in general. She has tried 4 cases. SHe seems to think the entire Federal Judical System is her "jurisdiction" not just S. Florida. One of the 4 is likely about to come back for new trial on a MATERIAL ERROR before it even began. And it is one that I cant talk about in detail here because of content rules. The Material Error? She NEVER SWORE IN THE POTENTIAL JURY before Vior Dire. And that is material error. Will the guy lose the new trial? Pretty sure yes. But even the CHANCE of no because she was SO INEXPERIENCED that she missed that? Its bad.
     
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