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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by slisse, Dec 17, 2018.

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  1. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    Like for the last years the American cybersecuritycompany SplashData published her 2018's top 25 of the worst passwords:
    1. 123456
    2. password
    3. 123456789
    4. 12345678
    5. 12345
    6. 111111
    7. 1234567
    8. sunshine
    9. qwerty
    10. iloveyou
    11. princess
    12. admin
    13. welcome
    14. 666666
    15. abc123
    16. football
    17. 123123
    18. monkey
    19. 654321
    20. !@#$%^&*
    21. charlie
    22. aa123456
    23. donald
    24. password1
    25. qwerty123
     
    slisse, Dec 17, 2018
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  2. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    A good password is important!

    For some sites the number of positions is restricted, so there you are limited.
    Where you are free it's best to foresee at least 8 positions.
    But, try to use as much possibilities as possible:
    -A ... Z = 26
    - a ... z =26
    - 0... 9 = 10
    - punctuation + others = at least 38 possibilities
    This is together at least 100 possibilities per position.

    Why is this so important?
    There are on the net also people trying to crack passwords.
    Let us suppose that the system of the cracker can perform 1,000 combinations per second and that the user uses 100 possibilities per position:
    1 position = 100 possibilities = cracked in 1 second
    2 positions = 10,000 p. = cracked in 10 seconds
    3 positions = 1,000,000 p. = cracked in 1,000 seconds
    4 positions = 100,000,000 p = cracked in 100,000 seconds
    5 positions = 10,000,000,000 p. = cracked in 10,000,000 seconds = 115.74 days
    6 positions = 1,000,000,000,000 p. = cracked in 1,000,000,000 seconds = 31.70 years
    7 positions = 100,000,000,000,000 p. = cracked in 100,000,000,000 seconds = almost 3,171 years
    8 positions = 10,000,000,000,000,000 p. = cracked in 10,000,000,000,000 seconds = almost 317,098 years
     
    slisse, Dec 17, 2018
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  3. Danny Boy 1966

    Danny Boy 1966 Trusted.Member

    I like the sites you can also use #$-+ along with numbers and letters.
     
    Danny Boy 1966, Dec 17, 2018
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  4. joep

    joep Trusted.Member

    Number 20 looks secure...trying to remember the order would be a bitch and what would you put down for the reminder...
     
    joep, Dec 18, 2018
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  5. TriadSibling

    TriadSibling Bro/Sis Enthusiast

    One of the many reasons number 20 is insecure is because it is the same progression of symbols as the top of the standard qwerty keyboard (numbers 1-8), and that's one of the things most hackers would account for. Having a password that looks secure, doesn't mean it actually is, and I know a lot of people make huge mistakes in that regard as well.

    Ideally, you would probably want to use a password that contains no real words, no simple progressions of any kind, and have alternating characters, numbers, symbols, and capitalizations. They should be at least 8 characters long, and not anything that can be linked to you personally, or have any meaning for you at all.
     
    TriadSibling, Dec 18, 2018
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  6. joep

    joep Trusted.Member

    Now all you have to do is remember that password. But thanks for explaining why it was unsecure.
     
    joep, Dec 18, 2018
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  7. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks all.
     
    slisse, Dec 21, 2018
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  8. jim stone

    jim stone Gentleman Jim

    Thank you much for the information. When they say at least 8 I try to go ten and use words that aren't in any dictionary with a symbol thrown in some where. I write all my passwords down and don't put them on my computer to save.


    Jim Stone
     
    jim stone, Feb 1, 2019
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  9. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    So true.
     
    slisse, Feb 18, 2019
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  10. zamo

    zamo Account Deleted

    my computer make up password for me is this good or no good
     
    zamo, Feb 18, 2019
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  11. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Moderator Staff Member

    Not really. A password should be something you can easily remember but be hard for someone else to guess.
    If you use an auto generated password you might be tempted to write it down somewhere.

    A password today should be at least 8 characters long using upper/lower case, numbers, and special characters.

    For example, a password I used in the past was DPSSBAAR. It was easy to remember because it's the first letter of the names of the members of my family from oldest to youngest. It's not ideal today because it doesn't include number, upper/lower case, or special characters.

    Another way is to use a word or name and substitute characters. For example "Patti O'Farrell" could become "P@++i0'F@rre11". Replacing "a" with @, "t" with a plus sign, "O" with a zero, and "l" with the number 1.
     
    Curmudgeon, Feb 18, 2019
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  12. Joey9

    Joey9 Trusted Member

    The best password are several words together like mynameisjoe
     
    Joey9, Feb 19, 2019
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  13. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    One can also use the following:
    ☺
    ☻
    ♥
    ♦
    ♣
    ♠
    •
    ◘
    ○
    ◙
    ♂
    ♀
    ♪
    ♫
    ☼

    How to make them (and many more)?
    Click on Alt and keep it pushed in, now click on a number and then release the keys.
    The above is the result from using Alt + 1 to Alt + 15
     
    slisse, Feb 19, 2019
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  14. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    How about getting a retinal scanner and using a finger print. Then again diabetic changes can alter the retina. And if you accidentally soak your fingers in Chlorox, you can remove your finger prints (temporary).
     
    Brutus58, Feb 20, 2019
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  15. l4a1

    l4a1 Trusted.Member

    My IPad doesn't accept my finger print most of the time because I work with my hands so they get dirty, banged up, scraped, and cut.
    [tin foil hat on] Also consider it may legal for Police to place your finger to unlock your phone, or scan your eye when it wouldn't be legal for them to force you to give out your password.[tin foil hat off]
     
    l4a1, Feb 20, 2019
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  16. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    Thank you all.
     
    slisse, Feb 22, 2019
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  17. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    How can I login to that?
     
    Brutus58, May 2, 2019
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  18. MrwannabeMiss

    MrwannabeMiss Trusted Member

    Also it’s smart to not use the same password for everything even if you think it’s a good one
     
    MrwannabeMiss, May 3, 2019
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  19. slisse

    slisse Moderator Staff Member

    A good idea!
     
    slisse, May 24, 2019
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  20. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

    ​

    Please Enter Your Password ... ...

    Please enter your new password:

    "cabbage"

    Sorry, the password must be more than 8 characters.

    "boiled cabbage"

    Sorry, the password must contain 1 numerical character.

    "1 boiled cabbage"

    Sorry, the password cannot have blank spaces.

    "50bloodyboiledcabbages"

    Sorry, the password must contain at least one upper case character.

    "50BLOODYboiledcabbages"

    Sorry, the password cannot use more than one upper case character consecutively.

    "50BloodyBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAssIfYouDon'tGi veMeAccessnow”

    Sorry, the password cannot contain punctuation.

    “ReallyPissedOff50BloodyBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYour AssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessnow”

    Sorry, that password is already in use. :D
     
    Insp Gadget, Jun 27, 2019
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