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Julian Assange.

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by curiousFred, Apr 14, 2019.

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  1. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    I agree. Disdain would have been more appropriate.
     
  2. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member


    No it wouldn't. Disdain implies that I consider something unworthy of my attention. If that were the case I wouldn't bother commenting at all.
    I have a degree of distaste for all governments, all countries, all societies. Nobody is without fault, nobody is perfect, and nobody should be immune from honest criticism or comment. And I don't single out the USA as a primary target, I'm an equal opportunity critic.
    But it seems Americans, who are happy enough to criticize, debase and ridicule anyone else they choose, just can't tolerate any comments from outside that they deem "un-american". Now, maybe some Americans feel that they are the chosen ones and therefore above all the rest of us, but you might want to step back and consider that the "rest of us" didn't put you on a pedestal. That's a purely domestic delusion.
    I don't "hate" the USA, that's absurd. I don't like your government. So what, I don't like mine either. And like you, and everyone else here, I have every right to state my opinion.
    And if it bothers you that much, you have every right to ignore it.
     
  3. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    Of course you have the right. In the USA that's our 1st Amendment to our constitution.
    My main point is that Assange published security information that put a lot of people in harm's way by
    informing everyone, including those who do actually hate the USA, of our operatives who are protecting
    us ( and you, etal ) from muslim and other terrorists by exposing and stopping their attacks before they
    are carried out.
     
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  4. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    You either believe in the principles of the "first amendment" or you don't. It appears that I do, and you don't.
    If it were not for the right to freedom of speech and expression, you would not be here.
    There would not be a "here".
     
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  5. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

    Yeh, I tripped myself up there, trying to be clever. All I was trying to say is that we're all under-achieving.

    The Brits need to solve their own issues - they don't rule the waves anymore. And sadly, the once-mighty USA sure ain't what she used to be.

    Canada ? Realistically, who cares ? We can't hope to be taken seriously on the World stage in the limp state we're in.


    ( And if nationalists weren't the most despised species on the planet, perhaps one might be forgiven one forbidden thought - that they might have the right idea. )
     
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  6. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    Not to worry, I knew what you meant. And I agree with you.
     
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  7. Dane

    Dane Account Deleted

    Yes I do believe in the 1st!
    Just like though it doesn't give you the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater if there isn't a fire, it doesn't
    give you the right to publish secrets that affect national security.

    By the way you seem to look at it, publishing information that gives your enemies the ability to kill your agents
    or the public is ok since it's everyone's "right" to publish whatever they want without legal ramifications.
     
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  8. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

    Weakness at Work ...

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Godfrey R.

    Godfrey R. Trusted.Member

    You will all be interested/pleased/relieved/upset to know that dear Julian Assange was this week sentenced at Southwark Crown Court to fifty weeks imprisonment for jumping bail on the sex-offence charges.
     
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  10. pussycat

    pussycat Administrator Staff Member

    In other words, they bought themselves 50 weeks to decide what to do with him.
     
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  11. TopGun

    TopGun Trusted.Member

    You are coorect
     
  12. curiousFred

    curiousFred Trusted.Member

    If he ends up in America, he will get 30 years just like Chelsea Mannings, who will pardon the stupid fucker ?
     
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  13. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Obama
     
  14. curiousFred

    curiousFred Trusted.Member

    Obama cannot pardon anyone now, I believe.
     
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  15. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    You are correct. What I should have said was "Obama would have if still president". I believe Clinton would have also. And that crazy AOC would too.
     
  16. Godfrey R.

    Godfrey R. Trusted.Member

    At the end of his sentence I believe he will be extradited to the United States just in time to assist President Trump in his 2020 campaign to secure the Presidency. The information to which he has access regarding the Democrats will be invaluable. They have spent the last three years trying to smear Trump. I think that soon it will be their turn.
     
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  17. buffyfan

    buffyfan Moderator Staff Member

    Working theory on this one is that he does not understand the US LEOs cant go to England and arrest him. It has to go Local LEOs, extradite.
     
  18. Exelbirth

    Exelbirth Trusted Member

    I'd just like to point out quick that Clinton advocated assassinating him. Kinda the extreme opposite of a pardon I think.
     
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  19. Brutus58

    Brutus58 Trusted.Member

    Which one? The serial rapist or the one protecting him?
     
  20. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

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