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California needs a enema.

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by Amanda, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Zarp

    Zarp Trusted.Member

    Actually somewhere along the line there was a federal law doing that. So it’s not just California.
     
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  2. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    From what I read, there was a previous law prohibiting carrying a gun within a school zone with the exception that said person has a valid conceal carry permit and with the approval of the local school district. Within California, at the time, 5 school districts gave permission to people with carry permits to have their weapons with them in the school zone, and it was looking that more school district would also give permission to do so. The Democrats in Sacramento wanted to stop this so they created this new law to circumvent any local school district from exercising its rights, so all control over this issue will then reside in Sacramento.
     
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  3. Zarp

    Zarp Trusted.Member

    What I haven’t figured out yet is what in the hell gives the California government the idea they can totally ignore the constitution and federal laws and just say fuck it, we are going to do things our own way? My next question is why in the hell they have been allowed to get away with it for so damn long?
     
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  4. TriadSibling

    TriadSibling Bro/Sis Enthusiast

    Exactly, and they're getting away with this shit because people on a federal level support this kind of fuckery, and refuse to do anything about the corruption taking place. One need not look further than any Washington scandal to see that. In short, we have a specific group controlling key points of our nation, who have an agenda to essentially crap on our freedoms and rights, and then expect us to put up with it. Unfortunately, they also control the process needed to get them out of these key positions, and they've proven every single year, that they're capable, and willing, to manipulate the system, the people, and anything else to keep their power.
     
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  5. Zarp

    Zarp Trusted.Member

    Which with all of that said is on great big back of dicks they want to shove up our collective asses!
     
  6. Insp Gadget

    Insp Gadget Trusted.Member

    California is so Israeli West Bank.
     
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  7. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    The Democrats in California passes laws knowing that they are prohibited by the Constitution. They count on a few things to get away with. First, the people have to object to the Law, hence they want a lot of illegals to populate the State, because they won't object to anything. Second, the process to stop the law requires large amounts of money to get it through the legal system. Most people can't afford to fight the Law in the courts and the Democrats just raise taxes to get whatever amount of money they need to block the legal system. Third, California is under the jurisdiction of the 9th Circuit Court which has been packed with liberal judges. The 9th will do anything against the law and against the Constitution to help the Democrats and make going through the legal system take even longer and cost more money to stop the Democrats. Fourth, the Democrats lie through their teeth about what they are doing, which leads to starting another legal battle to reveal that they are lying. Fifth, when the U.S. Supreme Court overturns the 9th Circuit Court as they almost always do, the Democrats in Sacramento ignores the Supreme Court Ruling which means that the people willing to fight it must go through the entire legal battle again. Sixth, the Democrats are guilty of voter fraud so trying to get them out by voting is nearly impossible. Seventh, even if the people vote against the Democrats, they just go to the 9th Circuit Court which will do whatever illegal thing the Democrats want which then means that the people need to go through the legal system costing large amounts of money to try and stop them. Eighth, even after going through everything and all the legal process to stop the Democrats, they just pass another law to take the place of the previous law that does the same thing so the whole thing starts over again.
     
  8. TriadSibling

    TriadSibling Bro/Sis Enthusiast

    Washington has the power to recognize this blatant disregard for law and remove such officials. Unfortunately, washington is loaded with these people's friends, so the only thing that's going to stop them is if the president signs and exec order that limits these people's terms in their positions, which should have already been a thing, but I doubt very much the constitutionalists of old (forefathers) had any idea just how complicated and outrageous our governmental structure could become.
     
  9. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    There is already term limits on California politicians, but the Democrats went to the courts to get the term limits overturned. They were successful on overturning term limits for federal offices and on State offices they just swap positions to get around the limits, like an Assemblyman will just run for the State Senate, a Mayor will run for Councilman and things like that. This will happen to the entire country if the Democrats ever get complete control of the Federal Government, then only a Civil War will get rid of them. That's why the Democrats are so keen on Gun Control and getting guns away from the people, so that when they try to enslave the population, no-one can stop them. The Democrats could care less about the safety of the people, when they say that they are lying.
     
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  10. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

  11. Amanda

    Amanda Account Deleted

    damn thanks for all the comments.
     
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    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

  13. Hrothgar Halfdansson

    Hrothgar Halfdansson Trusted Member

    So, am I to conclude that due to this law, police will have to check their firearms in at a locker when coming on a school campus, as is the case say for prisons, or certain parts of a police office?

    Or is the law just targeting people who are not law enforcement from carrying firearms on campus.

    In the case of firearms and 'loaded' in public, Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford Act in 1967, which prohibited carrying a loaded firearm in public. This has been the law of California, now for over 50 years. There is the licensing of concealed carry, but that is very limited.
     
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  14. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    The link to the actual text of the bill is in my post. You can read for yourself without any interpretation or manipulation by me. I believe that active duty police officers are exempt from the law, but off-duty are not. License for concealed carry holders are targeted by this bill, I was lead to understand that they created this bill for the sole purpose of restricting people that have concealed carry permits.
     
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  15. Hrothgar Halfdansson

    Hrothgar Halfdansson Trusted Member

    My read of the text indicates there are categories of persons authorized to have firearms on campus. They include such terms as 'authorized security', or 'law enforcement', who have been authorized to carry. I did not see a passage which would prohibit an 'off-duty' officer who is authorized for a firearm from being on campus.

    To me, if a school wants to have an armed security person(s) present, then hire or have staff so trained, be given authorization. I don't see a problem there. California is pretty tight on concealed carry, and open carry has been prohibited for quite some time now.

    There were exceptions to some exclusion zones, not on a school campus but an area surrounding a school, where either a private citizen with a license for concealed carry or a private person in their own home, may possess a firearm. Also provision for locked guns in trunks of automobiles, which I think is already the requirements on transporting firearms, and being in a 'no gun zone'.
     
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  16. Neophyte

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    This excerpt indicates that only Law Enforcement Officers who are performing their duties or Armed Security Personnel who are performing their duties may carry loaded weapon in the exclusion zone.
    Later sections exempts off-duty Law Enforcement from prosecution for carrying unloaded firearms that are considered non-concealable, so no pistols or revolvers even if they are off-duty police and if they have rifles they must be unloaded and they can't have access to any ammunition.

    This Law was written to strip authority of granting permission from the local School Districts and revoking the rights of those with valid License to Carry permits.
     
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  17. Hrothgar Halfdansson

    Hrothgar Halfdansson Trusted Member

    Would you please be a bit more specific as to exactly what laws or actions 'totally ignore the Constitution or Federal laws.' Are you talking about the recent legalization of cultivation, sales, and limited in state distribution of Marijuana, or what?

    Or are you talking about such gun control laws like the Mulford Act, signed into law by Ronald Reagan.

    Or are you talking about the fact that state law enforcement does not have to enforce Federal laws(eg example of medical/recreational marijuana legal at the state level, illegal at the Federal), since that is the Federal bailiwick. Often when one sees law enforcement of a state enforcing a 'federal law', it is because the state has a similar law, such as crimes involving robbing banks. But as Arizona found out in 2012, as state can not make more expansive laws regarding immigration, immigrants or immigrant status, than the Federal laws, and can only ask about, if they so choose, the immigrant status, and again if they so choose, forward information to Federal authorities. Because immigration policies, laws, and enforcement strictly in the domain of the Federal government.

    But as the conservatives are wont to say... California, love it or leave it.

    If aliens, taxes, gun laws, or heck not having Genesis taught as fact, are so burdensome there are other states which have quite different laws and polices which may be more acceptable.
     
  18. Neophyte

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  19. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    California Citizens Redistricting Commission

    In California political districts are assigned by the California Citizens Redistricting Commission. Under the original terms of the commission, it was to be composed of 5 Democrats, 5 Republicans, and 4 Non-Affiliated members. Because of objections made by the Democrats, the commission was selected by racial diversity instead where out of the 14 member commission 3 members were white and 11 members were selected from other racial minorities. The Democrats continued to change the mandates of the commission from a census based method of redistricting to one where members of the community voiced an opinion on how they were to be defined. Using a loophole in the hearings held by the commission, the Democrats hand picked all the witnesses that were to speak before the commission so that only witnesses approved by the Democrats would be heard and all districting decisions were to be made only by the testimony of the witnesses seen by the commission. In essence all political districts in California is being determined by a commission selected by Democrats, based on testimony of witnesses selected by Democrats, and approved by a Legislature controlled by Democrats.
     
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  20. Neophyte

    Neophyte Administrator Staff Member

    California has adopted a procedure where only the top two candidates in a Primary Election for State and Local positions will be allowed to be on the General Election Ballot. Because of districting for political offices in the next General Election, only Democrat candidates will be on the ballot for almost all the State Legislature positions. There will be no Republican opposition candidates for those offices on the Ballot.
     
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