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A Conservatives view of Liberals

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Affairs' started by Neophyte, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Neophyte

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    This is The Liberal's idea of utopia.

     
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    both parties will have to come together to create good policies
     
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    If they ever graduate from Yeshiva University ...

    [​IMG] ... you're gonna see them someday on Saturday Night Live ! [​IMG]

     
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  13. incest_otter

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    I don't live in the US. I'm pretty far removed but fairly well informed and looking on in horror... and I gotta say - both sides are just as brain-sick and generally wrong as each other. I'm sick of seeing the partisan BS. There hasn't been decent leadership in the US for DECADES. Not since Kennedy and, hey, even he was a mess. But at least he GOT it. He understood that a cabal of psychos is running things, not presidents or governments. He understood that there is a massive conspiracy manipulating almost every aspect of human endeavor and that every last American - if not every last human being - is in peril. That's why they took him out, ultimately. And it's just been an ever worsening gallery of nutjobs since, none of whom serve the American people. They're serving a totally separate agenda - that of the cabal networks - and the average US citizen too completely and utterly ignorant to even realize this agenda exists. More and more people are waking up, but the progress is too slow to avert the disaster that is currently unfolding all around us.

    There's so many issues that are like runaway freight trains barreling us all into an abyss of enslavement (5G and the global smartgrid system that is rolling out all around us, in particular), and there's not a damn thing any Republican is going to do to stop it. Nor Democrat. They're both the same. There is no difference. There are no sides. The only place two separate political entities exist is in the heads of the mind fucked public under the sway of the endless stream of propaganda and manipulation keeping them triggered and bickering with each other instead of waking up and realizing how fucked they all are, regardless of any of the issues being used to divide them. Doesn't matter what color or creed, what sexuality or gender, what political beliefs or whatever. None of that exists in real terms. That's just the divide and conquer game, and the pawns are still asleep on the board....

    I mean, lookit - currently elected is a gigantic puppet of the Rothschild's/Israel, bending to the every whim of Zionist mobsters like Netanyahu, set to wage yet more endless/pointless war on Israel's behalf, fulfilling Jewish prophecies...etc, etc. Most of the left are too demented and obsessed with their gender pronouns to have the first clue what's really going on or what's really important, and most of the right are Christian whack-jobs who believe in all that end times crap (religion, the original mind control psy-op) and kind of egg it all on... and/or still think that Capitalism can work (no political model can work, until that cabal is taken out).

    So yeah. I'm sick of hearing the bitching to be honest. People need to wake the fuck up soon, or we're all - globally - as good as dead at this point. First and foremost, people need to realize that the ENTIRE system is broken. Voting achieves nothing. If it did, they wouldn't still let us do it. People need to realize that they're really not that different from each other and they ARE in it together, they're the same. The elite are a breakaway civilization. There's us, and there's them. Until people come to grips with reality - which, frankly, from my research starts with realizing that the conspiracy theorists have been right about a lot of things all along - I'm afraid things are only to get worse.
     
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    Conservatives know the difference between Right and Wrong, Good and Evil, Truth and Lies. Liberals think that Right, Wrong, Good, Evil, Truth and Lies are Social Constructs, they only know what they agree with and what they don't agree with, and sometimes they don't even agree with each other.
     
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    I don't really think this distinction is actually there, honestly. It depends who you talk to. Politically, I'm pretty far to the left. But I don't relate to the left anymore. For a while I began to identify more with the right, until I realized they're just as nuts as the left only from a different angle. I've talked to people on both sides of the aisle who come across as insane, brainwashed, and totally unable to discern right from wrong, good from evil, truth from lies. You really can't generalize like this. It's not that black and white. Take the issue of abortion as an example - both sides of the argument are wrong, these days. The right want to force people to bring unwanted kids into the world without providing the welfare, healthcare, childcare and schooling needed to make sure the kid is cared for, they're pro-birth not pro-life, while the left are trying to make light of abortion, arguing that it should be 'commonplace' and 'guilt free' - which is just insane, as if they didn't all grow up with sex ed and detailed knowledge of fucking birth control (and it's THAT which should be 'commonplace', 'guilt free'). Abortion is one of the toughest issues to resolve though, so...yeah...I picked a hard example.

    The fundamental problem I have with both sides of the aisle - if we're speaking in generalizations - is that neither side really has a damn clue how the world works. They both live in a kind of fantasy. The world is nothing at all like it should be, and nothing at all like it would be if we didn't have a cabal of elites manipulating it. These bloodlines and networks have been manipulating the course of human development for well over two centuries, and actually far beyond that. Most political concepts cannot even be envisioned without their influence, subversion and manipulation playing a role in peoples' perception of a political model. They're the fruits of crony capitalism, oligarchs heading up monopolies, hoarding wealth and creating extreme poverty all over the world. And, yes, ALL over the world. Some places are hit harder, but it's everywhere. Meanwhile, these are the same entities who created communism, socialism. All of these political models have potential, but not while there is a ruling elite and total inequality. We're just a class system of master and slave and most people - regardless of liberal or conservative - don't understand that and can't even begin to imagine how life could be because they've never known anything other than matrix of control these cabals have set up.

    Some of the conservatives believe in a psy-op called Q Anon, which holds that Donald Trump...is going to end all this and save humanity. Dreamers, all. He will do no such thing. He's a puppet of the same old agenda. He's Obama. He's Bush. He's Clinton. He just has bad hair and an unpleasant demeanor. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Nothing will ever change until conservatives and liberals both wake up to reality, put aside differences, meet on common ground and fight their common enemy together.

    I have no doubt that I will die waiting for this to happen, die waiting for the world to change. It's why I've struggled with suicide for some years now. We're on a highway to hell and everybody is too busy arguing and being monstrous with each other to do anything about it, or even know they need to.
     
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  17. Neophyte

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    That post is a generalization. There are always exceptions, but they tend to be valid for the majority. Conservatives may know the differences between good, evil, right, wrong, truth and lies, but knowing the differences doesn't mean you choose the positive over the negative. Knowing the difference means most Conservatives have a common frame of reference to judge most things. Where as believing everything is a social construct, then every thing you do is right in your own eyes, and even if proven wrong or shown contrary facts they still believe they are right.

    Also its best not to attribute to a conspiracy for something that can be explained by stupidity. Conspiracies require an extensive infrastructure and long range planning and most of the actions taken are behind the scenes and seems to be of little impact when they occur, but down the road things happen. You make an adjustment then wait for the results, if its not quite right or not what you want, then you make another adjustment.
     
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